How Far is Too Far? Amateur Porn Star Killer 2

[WIL]

Director Shane Ryan is really pushing the envelope with his Amateur Porn Star Killer movies, but is he going too far? Even for Horror Yearbook? I quote from Molly's review of the first film:

"The blowjob was real though. Penetration with the lead was planned, but later pulled since she is playing a 13 year old. Some of the acts are performed with the girl we are led to believe is 13 while the guy smiles smugly into the camera. Obviously, this film isn’t for everyone."

Amateur Porn Star Killer 2 involves: "full-blown penetration, and street fights" mixing rape and full penetration is a big no-no even in the porn world.

So what do you all think?

[WIL]

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[Darkspider]

Director Shane Ryan is really pushing the envelope with his Amateur Porn Star Killer movies, but is he going too far? Even for Horror Yearbook? I quote from Molly's review of the first film:

"The blowjob was real though. Penetration with the lead was planned, but later pulled since she is playing a 13 year old. Some of the acts are performed with the girl we are led to believe is 13 while the guy smiles smugly into the camera. Obviously, this film isn’t for everyone."

Amateur Porn Star Killer 2 involves: "full-blown penetration, and street fights" mixing rape and full penetration is a big no-no even in the porn world.

So what do you all think?

"mixing rape and full penetration is a big no-no even in the porn world."

What era porn movies are you watching WIL, 60's? I have seen many rape scenes in porno movies, just recently (by accident, LOL)  saw a brazilian porn with a VERY violent rape scene, girl screaming and everything.

I didn't saw the first movie, but like always, the more people talk about it the more I want to see it, just because of the hype. If no one says anything I wouldn't even know about it.

[WIL]

Well on the Internet and in Brazil maybe but the American porn industry doesn't release rape porn, not when I worked in the porn world that is.

[davidus_montoyacus]

There's this guy...don't know his name...but he works out of the US, along with a growing number of hardcore porn producers and directors who make stuff arguably more offensive than this. There was some two-part report on the old Disinfo TV show about him and others in the adult entertainment industry. There's some serious dislike toward the guy, but he knows business. I'm not opposed to much, but I hate that douche bag.

But as far as this film goes, I'm not sure if it'd bother me. I mean, it's not billed as a porn release, is it?

I should probably see the first one so that I know what I'm talking about.

As far as pushing the envelope too far...

There are a lot of envelopes, and each one has been pushed pretty far. I think what makes this film different is that it's pushing all of these envelopes at once.

Honestly, I don't know where the limit is or how far is too far. My beef with the porno director I mentioned earlier isn't that his films go too far, it's that he doesn't compensate actors fairly and is sleazy as fuck, he hurts the people he works with, he damages the legitimate aspects of the industry...meh, my list goes on.

[WIL]

What be his name?

[davidus_montoyacus]

Ha! Found his name: Rob Black. In a movie called Ass Clowns a woman is raped and a tub of earth worms are poured on her. Then, she gets fucked in a pile of filth and insects. Another movie has a woman raped by leper vikings. A LOT of viking lepers. Rob Black does understand one thing though: what film boils down to is entertainment. People like the extreme. I think he pushes the envelope in the wrong way. Leper rape inspires terror, obviously, and also a degree of fascination. Were he an artist and if his actresses were treated respectfully, compensated fairly, it might almost be controversial cinema which holds up a mirror to society and says, "Look how fucked you are!" Anyway, re-watching the episode, I realized he's not the worst. There is some SICK shit out there. And it becomes rape and not consensual sex when there is no way to back out of a scene. If the actress is really suffering, it adds authenticity, which is fucking sick. And for me, that's when it crosses the line. It's no longer consensual; it's appalling, and becomes an especially heinous form of rape. THAT for me, is where the line is crossed, and it no longer becomes about pushing the envelope. It's criminal. But legal. Which is fucked.

Anyway, there's also a porn director named Lizzy Borden. She laughs as she describes bringing girls to tears, causing bloody noses, an actor beating a woman too hard. "For Cocktails, I had Christie get fucked in the ass and, um, then they put the enema in there, she shits it out, and she takes a cock all the way down her throat, makes herself throw up. Through the whole scene she's spitting, there's puke, there's like ass juice, um; when you do too much ass fucking and,um, lube gets in there, your tissue comes out of your ass, so it gets really long, and it gets real stringy, and she drank it at the end." That's Lizzy Borden recounting one movie. She giggles, then says, "I like shooting that." She believes if a woman is not brought to tears--if she's not puking and bruised--she's not doing her job.

Vivid girls make 100,000 for 5-8 movies a year. As far as business goes, Vivid is the top and gives women an opportunity to break into semi-professional markets.

Anyhoo...

[Larry]

Hhhhmmmmm

[murderpunk]

LMAO Ass Clowns sounds awesome!