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« on: August 23, 2009, 12:50:15 PM »

Add your thoughts and reviews on/of Rob Zombie's Halloween 2, or just rate it above in the poll.


It's that time of year again, and Michael Myers has returned home to sleepy Haddonfield, Illinois to take care of some unfinished family business.  Unleashing a trail of terror that only horror master Rob Zombie can, Myers will stop at nothing to bring closure to the secrets of his twisted past.  But the town’s got an unlikely new hero, if they can only stay alive long enough to stop the unstoppable.


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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 12:18:50 PM »

Here is the first review I have found. It's from Horror-Movies.ca. The review is kind of shitty, but it is all we got until Brain Hammer's official HYB review, and your guy's thoughts this weekend (I wonder if Sonny will review it?). If I find any interesting reviews I will publish them here:


I just returned home from the premiere of Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 (thanks for the tickets!) and I've got to say that I'm very disappointed.  Being the first reviewer of the film on the site, I hate that I'm not raving about it.  I wanted to like this film so bad!  I really enjoyed Rob Zombie's original remake, too.

Let me give it some praise before I get into what I didn't care for:  It starts with a bang, and keeps the tension up throughout the entire film.  I can not say that I got bored at all, and the movie moved along really quickly.  It also looked good.  Say what you will about Rob Zombie, but I think he's got a distinct style that is pleasing to the eye. 

Having said that, however, let me slide into my first complaint:  This is Rob Zombie-ville.  Where Haddonfield the first time around seemed like a middle class white neighborhood, this time it looks like a backwoods village that hasn't had running water in a month.  I don't know why, but Zombie makes all of the characters greasy, dirty, and just really unattractive.  Laurie this time around looks like shit run over twice throughout the film, (understandable considering), and everyone around her just looks...gross.

Secondly, I really didn't give two shits about any of the characters this time.  Laurie bumbles her way through, either screaming hysterically or sobbing uncontrollably; her friend Annie is back, but to no effect; and most disappointing is Dr. Loomis.  First time around, he was portrayed as a generally likeable guy with a questionable moral compass.  This time he's just an asshole.  When he's not yelling at someone, he's screaming profanities to himself.  I really disliked his character this time.  VERY disappointing.

Then there were the kills.  The excessive blood didn't bother me, nor did the body count.  What drove me crazy were the sound effects.  The stabbing, slicing, crunching, snapping noises were so ridiculously loud and over the top, that I felt like they should have just taken the Batman route and had giant cartoon letters on the screen that yelled SPLAT!  CRACK!  It was one of those things that once you notice it, you realize how ridiculous it gets.

And finally, my biggest gripe is surely going to be the most controversial one.  This film is not a Halloween film.  If it weren't for the William Shatner mask, I wouldn't have ever known this was in the Halloween family of films.  We complain with remakes at times because we feel like the remake served no purpose - that the filmmakers didn't take it in a new direction or add anything new to the mythology.  Well, Rob Zombie can never be accused of that.  He certainly puts his own spin on the story.  We are in Michael's head for the first time...and I think it ruins part of the mythology.  I personally hated the whole "Kill for Mommy" idea.  I saw it in the trailer, and had hoped it was just one scene.  Well, it's not.  It's basically the driving force. 

For a character that was referred to in the original script in 1978 as "THE SHAPE," this Michael sure has got a lot of backstory.  He's Michael, for God's sake!  We don't have to know why he kills, or see that he's got mommy issues and some weird, warped sense of family!  While Zombie dabbled in the ethos of Michael in the first film, he dives in head first into it this time around.  I can appreciate the fact that they were trying to make a horror film with substance, that had deeper meanings and symbolism, really, I can, but to me, Halloween 2 comes off as an akward, unsuccessful attempt at experimental film.  There's flashing images and bizarre dreams, and a white horse, and Michael as a boy (played by a different kid than in the first, and he must be related to Zombie, because there's no way a kid that is that completely awful at acting would ever get a gig on his own.  Honestly painful to watch.)

I have other problems with the film, (like how Michael does a lot of grunting when he's stabbing people, and the absence of even a note of John Carpenter's classic theme song until the end credits) but this is dangerously close to turning into one of those reviews where the reviewer seemingly just hates the world.  I'm sorry if this dampens anybody's excitement, and obviously this is just my little opinion.  Keep in mind that I enjoyed the first, which many of you didn't, and I really dislike this one partly because it's absolutely nothing like the first.  So perhaps that means if you hated the first, you'll love this one?  I don't know.  Still go see it, tell me what you think, disagree with me, call me an idiot, it'll be fun.
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 07:34:29 PM »

That review was shitty. That guy should be smitten
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 08:00:31 PM »

Yeah it was a shitty review.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 08:04:02 PM »

what's wrong with everyone in the film being dirty or greasy? it's a fucking horror film, not an episode of Dawson's Creek
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 09:45:52 PM »

what's wrong with everyone in the film being dirty or greasy? it's a fucking horror film, not an episode of Dawson's Creek

Exactly!

Wil are you sure some 10 yr.old from IMDB didn't right this?
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 11:00:49 PM »

Shitty review is shitty. He contradicts himself quite a bit throughout the whole review. I'm going to see it this weekend (if Final Destination isn't playing in 3D or if I can squeeze in a double feature).
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 10:43:07 PM »

FD looks terrible to me. The 3D will be terrible, the trailer looked bad and I expect it will be mostly CGI.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2009, 12:54:57 AM »

I plan on seeing it tommorrow, so I'll write a review up for it.

This movies just been bugging me...at first I was like...okay...cool...I'm down, but the more I hear about it the more I'm just thinking this is going to be baaaddddd.

But I'll keep an open mind.

The way he wasted Malcom McDowall as Loomis in the first one just...boggles my goddamn mind...and I'm sure he's going to waste him even more in this one.
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2009, 09:28:16 AM »

I plan on seeing it tommorrow, so I'll write a review up for it.

Cool because I decided you're the official MB film reviewer.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2009, 09:29:46 AM »

I guess Dr. Loomis is supposed to be a prick in this one.  What's up with that?  Loomis was a fucking badass right up until Micheal killed him in part 6.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2009, 09:59:32 AM »

Brain Hammer's review should be here (hopefully) later this afternoon. Until then Halloween 2 only has a 41% approval rating on Horror-Movies.ca and a 40% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

Here are some choice quotes:

"While the film is not as good as Zombie's first, the violence is relentlessly brutal and you will definitely be jumping out of your seat."

"A repellent and incompetent monstrosity that should put to rest for good the weirdly persistent rumor that Rob Zombie has even a shred of talent as a filmmaker."

"Almost shocking how skillfully anchored it is, Halloween II is confidently and assuredly its own beast, and what a beast it is."

"Zombie is a terrific stylist -- there's a red-tinted party sequence that's nightmarishly creepy -- but he seems bored with this material."
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2009, 10:21:37 AM »

Brain Hammer's review should be here (hopefully) later this afternoon.

What's this "should" and "hopefully" shit?  Cry Do I usually promise you reviews and then not deliver? I said I would have it for you this afternoon and I will. I'm already getting baked in anticipation of my 12:30pm screening.

The review that might not happen until tomorrow afternoon is The Final Destination. The question is: can I view and review TWO flicks in one day - and then go to work at 9pm and stock fucking shelves until 5am? Or will I wimp out and need some sleep along the way? We'll see... 
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2009, 10:27:53 AM »

Well you know you could die in a horrific car accident on the way...and wouldn't that be ironic?
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2009, 10:30:52 AM »

I would die wearing my Halloween II t-shirt!
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